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Horsemen's Voice Newsletter 04-25-04

March 28, 2004

In this issue

Catch Up Time

Kansas Bill

Aggie Bill

Organic Manure?

Dogs and Horses

Reverse Lookup and Lost E-mails

Fun Things to do March 29 - April 4


Catch Up Time


It's been three weeks since sent a real newsletter. Two weeks ago, I just said that I would put out a newsletter the following week. However, I just didn't have the time to put out a newsletter last week. So, I have lots of catching up to do.


Kansas Bill


My last riff was on "They" and "Nobody". I was wondering why people always say, "And the rest, as they say, is history," and not just "And the rest is history." Not only that I wondered who "They" are. My conclusion was that "They" wanted to be "Nobody," because Nobody has all the answers and Nobody cares. My buddy, Kansas Bill, could not let this topic go by un-noticed.


Mr. Jay,

I don't know what yer other fans think, but it seems to me you kinda got yerself tangled up in lingo in yer latest. Must of been the effects of that there ambient dust, er latent dust, random dust? er whatever it is. Despite what some people think, folks in Southwest Kansas have read a book or two. Or so THEY tells me. I asked around, and it seems to me that Danish boy, whatisname--Hamlet said it all when he died, actually he weren't dead yet, just almost. "The REST is silence," he said. Come to think of it, that was a pretty fair accurate thing for him to say, since just about NOBODY was alive by that point in the evenin' , and he sure wasn't gonna be hearin' nothin' for quite a while. Then there was that old gray-haired daddy king who says "NOTHIN' can come of NOTHIN'."  And then, a course, John Prine, who's the truest of them all, says "a question's not a question if you know the answer too."

Yers in studious matters,

Kansas Bill

Bill, please don't forget that modern day bard, Billy Preston who said,


Nothing from nothing leaves nothing 

You gotta have something if you wanna be with me

Oh, wow, Man! That's deep! Nobody does it better. 


At least, that's what They say.



Aggie Bill


Moving south and west from Kansas to Clovis, NM, I heard from another Bill, who is proud to be an Aggie. I made the mistake of saying, "Who wants so hear a good, clean Aggie joke?" Bill asks,


My computer, being rather old does not have sound so how am I going to "hear" the joke? ? ?

And They wonder why we have Aggie jokes. Nobody is surprised.


Bill did send me a serious story, though. I related a story about our yearling, Jazz, who had a hard time because we put him into a situation he wasn't prepared for. I asked if anyone else found themselves in a situation where they wished they had prepared their horse better before putting themselves in a precarious situation. I have to warn you that Bill's story is not for the faint of heart.


You asked for stories about putting off training etc., etc. About 1971 or '72 while we were in Estancia I had one of the best quarter horses I ever owned. And certainly the most powerful. And an absolute lovable pup except for one trait. He would not load in a trailer without severe consultation & coaxing with a buggy whip. Hauled good, just terrible to load.

I had been planning to do some trailer training on him for some time, but, just "do it tomorrow'.

We were loading our horses to take to a VEE Vaccine clinic about a mile away. I had a lariat on his halter & wrapped twice around the anchor in the horse trailer.

Chip was happily grazing around the back of the trailer.

Our 10 year old son had reached through the window, wrapped the rope & passed it back out the side to me. I looked through the side to be sure son had his hand out of the way & the window. Saw him take his hand out and told my daughter "OK pop Chip". She did, Chip looked up, saw where he was headed & sat back.

In me taking up slack in the wraps they had crossed over & son reached back in to uncross them just as Chip sat back.

Took off the tip of son's index finger & bowed the tendon on the next one.

We did not make the clinic, instead a wild ride Estancia to Moriarty and a Starsky and Hutch ride  from Moriarty To Bataan hospital Albuquerque in 24 minutes & plastic surgery to save the 1st joint of the index finger. State Cop hauled us from Moriarty to Bataan.

Too late I penned Chip, tied the trailer to his gate and started feeding him in it when I came in  from work. Within 7 to 10 days Chip got where when I came in from work about 5:30 pm he would go in the trailer and start pawing for his feed. Left the trailer about 2 weeks after he got
to going in on his own and we practiced some with him going in on command, so to speak, then I moved it. He was never any more trouble to load. Since then I have used this method on several young horses, and it always worked great. Could have saved lot of time, trauma, and pain by not putting off.

Anyone else have any other stories?

Organic Manure?


I received an interesting e-mail from my friend, Ralph, in T or C. (Yes, I do have friends who are not named Bill). A woman that works for Ralph also grows organic mushrooms. Jo is looking for organic horse manure for her organic mushrooms.


I said that we have LOTS of manure around here, and it certainly is organic. However, Jo seems to have little different definition of "organic." She tells me that organic manure comes from horses that have been a) fed hay that is grown organically, and b) have not had vaccinations or other injections. It seems that if your horse eats alfalfa that was grown in a field that was sprayed for weeds at some time, that horse's manure is not organic. If the horse has been wormed or vaccinated, his manure is similarly not organic. 


I don't really understand this logic, nor do I know where to find anyone who can certify that their horse's poop is "organic". But, I did tell Jo that I would ask all of you if any of you know where organic manure can be found.


As I think about this, more questions come to mind. Salt is not an organic compound. Would having a salt block in the horse's pen disqualify his poop as organic? What if you feed the horse on the ground, and he injests some sand or dirt. Neither of these substances are organic. Finally, if I want to get really absurd, I have to note that the definition of an organic compound is one that contains carbon. Water contains only hydrogen and oxygen. No carbon. I guess that manure has to be really dry.


Silliness aside, is there anyone out there who can a) educate me more on what it means to have "organic" manure, and b) knows how we can get some for Jo?


Dogs and Horses


Every morning and every evening, after we feed the horses, I take our dogs for a walk in the pasture. I open the gate and the mongrel horde zooms through it. It's a good thing that the PMU mares who eat on just the other side of that gate are pretty mellow. A few days ago, the dogs went blasting through the gate and two separate dogs ran into Sharkey's front hooves. She barely registered the intrusion and just kept eating. 


All of our horses are used to dogs, and vice versa. However, the dogs will sometimes decide that it's quite fun to chase the horses in pasture. That's a more than a little scary for us, but so far, no one has gotten hurt. 


Not all horses and dogs are used to each other. There is a good article on website about our equine and canine friends, how to try to get them to get along. Go to:


Reverse Lookup and Lost E-mails


Some of my readers, especially AOL customers, have said that sometimes they don't get these newsletters. I recently found out that is actually true, and the problem should be fixed. 


If you don't want to know why, just skip this next part, and know that it shouldn't happen again. Otherwise, I'll try explain without sounding too computer nerdy.


When you put in a web site address in your browser, like, the internet computers don't actually use that name to find our site. What happens is that domain name is looked up on a Domain Name Server (DNS) and converted to a number that looks like this: That is our web site's address that is unique to the whole internet. It's called the IP address (Internet Protocol). It's that number that is used to route web pages and e-mails to your computer. There is also a reverse look up. You can enter an IP address and get the domain associated with it. 


E-mails come with header information you usually don't see or look at. In this header is both your domain name and your IP address. If it is a legitimate e-mail, the IP address and the domain name will match. One thing that some viruses and worms do is something called "spoofing". This type of virus will open up the e-mail address book on an infected computer and send out e-mails to everyone in that list, and make each e-mail look like it came from someone else on that list. For example, if Mannie's computer is infected, it might send out an e-mail to Moe, that looks like it came from Jack. Jack has been spoofed. Moe thinks the e-mail comes from Jack, but it really came from Mannie's infected computer. I have a friend who keeps telling me that I am sending her infected e-mails. I keep telling her that we have a mutual friend who has both our names in their address that is spoofing my name and send e-mails. It ain't my fault, Man.


In order to combat spoofing, many ISPs (Internet Service Providers) like AOL are checking each incoming e-mail with a reverse DNS look up. If the IP address and the domain name don't match, it is likely a spoofed e-mail or spam. That message is just thrown away.


As most of you know, the magazine and this newsletter are not my day job. I work for a company, Weststar Escrow,  whose domain name is They very graciously let me put my web site and e-mails on their computers as a perk for me. Here is where the problem comes in. We had registered both and to the same ip address. So, when ISPs, like AOL, do a Reverse DNS lookup on, sometimes it would come back as and sometimes as 


Weststar sends out several hundred e-mail receipts every day, and our AOL customers were complaining that the receipts weren't arriving. Some were getting them and some were not. That's because half the time the DNS lookup would come back with the wrong domain name, and those e-mails would get thrown away because they look like spam or spoofing. I suspect that a similar thing was happening to this newsletter. 


Anyway, we have fixed this problem by switching to Now, when a reverse lookup is done, the correct information is returned, and the e-mail goes through. I hope that we don't have any more missing e-mails.


If you want to try out the reverse lookup, go to, and enter or The address is one of AOL's addresses. 


So, you see, this is a full service newsletter. We not only talk about horses, but we teach you a little about computers, too. 


Fun Things to Do  March 29 - April 4


April is almost here. Every year, in January, I tell myself that I am going to get my taxes done early. Here is it is just over two weeks before the deadline, and I don't have the info to my tax preparer. Looks like extension time again!




31 – APR 4      USTRC TEAM ROPING, Expo NM




EVERY SUNDAY      HABANEROS POLOCROSSE PRACTICE, 1 p.m., Albuquerque South Valley .  All are welcome, gear not necessary for practice.  Info:  235-6457


3          HUNTER JUMPER SHOW, Las Cruces Horseman’s Assoc. Info:  523-7020


3 – 4    WEEKEND WITH HORSES IV CLINIC, Rio Grande Peruvian Horse Club.  All breeds & disciplines welcome.  Instruction & demos by Roberto Quijandria, Roeliff Annon & Virginia Gaffney.  La Estancia Alegre, Alcalde, NM.  Info:  Barbara Windom, 852-0444


3 - 4     CUTTING, NM Cutting Horse Assoc.  County Fairgrounds , Artesia.  Info:  Patti Rawls, 856-6540


3 – 5    MUFFY SEATON CLINIC,   Rocky Mountain Carriage Club.  Info:  970-532-9815


4          ALL BREED & BUCKSKIN/PAINT SHOW, NM Buckskin Horse Assoc., Bosque Farms Rodeo Assoc. Arena.  Info:  Lynn, 896-0737, or Sharon, 869-2763


4          SPRING CREEK FARMS FUN SHOW, Hunters/Jumpers & Under Saddle classes.  Old Town Farm, 949 Montoya Rd. NW   Info:  Anita Endean, 321-2175, or Jenny Paisley, 303-748-8477



New Mexico Horse Fair


The New Mexico Horse Fair is coming up in just over a month. I will start plugging that in next week's newsletter.


Happy trails...




The above newsletter was written when Nancy Gage and Jay Koch owned The Horsemen's Voice magazine. The Horsemen's Voice name and logo are used here with permission of the new owner, Catherine Logan-Carillo, who is a fine, upstanding member of the community. Catherine disavows any silliness, stupidity, vapidity, errors, or unintentional offenses, and the reader should know that she would know better than publish anything like this.

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